lol wild. I know 100 better ctf players than blind. Sorry but blind showed his skills when you guys played vs me and coom. If his camping style is the best so i have no more question
We didn't leave this game vs you for fun.
shin Wrote:lol wild. I know 100 better ctf players than blind. Sorry but blind showed his skills when you guys played vs me and coom. If his camping style is the best so i have no more question We didn't leave this game vs you for fun.
nah u dont even know 1 better ctf player, u just say u do. i think u arent capable of fathoming blinds skills, like that time when i did 33 xtc u couldnt believe that those kinds of skills exist so u called me a cheater. same goes for blinds skills.. u havent seen his real skills and even if u did u wouldnt be able to tell how good they are. compared to blind u are like a proskater and proskaters cant tell difference between 2 pros unless they see those 2 pros play directly vs each other
you cant really say that.
blind is often doing kind of backing-up-playing. thats kind of style you can like or not. can also look like way of camping but its not at all. i dont like the style altho hes prolly best with it.
surely there could be players as good as blind if they train his way of playing over years.
what a bullshit. I called you a cheater, and you will be always for me even if you are the best at the moment. I don't know how player who used to cheat can talk how good we were in our best times. You weren't there.
Blind is just good, but not amazing player in ctf. He used to camp a lot. If you just don't see it, you are blind. Sometimes i regret that i didn't cap how he plays. It could be the best evidence. I remember when I made same with Myna 6 years ago when I capped his camping style. You know shit generally about 2004-2007 years because you were just a noob and cheater.
Nevermind Wrote:you cant really say that.
blind is often doing kind of backing-up-playing. thats kind of style you can like or not. can also look like way of camping but its not at all. i dont like the style altho hes prolly best with it.
surely there could be players as good as blind if they train his way of playing over years.
If i go down and he goes up and return when i try to go up is not a camping then I give up.
lol thats not what im talking about. altho ctf isnt ap only
Nevermind Wrote:lol thats not what im talking about. altho ctf isnt ap only
I know. Im just saying how he camped at tourney which we played on AP. After few actions like this I decided to leave a game, because I couldn't compare with "best ctf player ever". I can lose in fair way but his way to win was just pathetic. It's nothing personal against him because I like blind, but I can't accept some unfair things.
wild786 Wrote:@plum u r right 
but i got an analogy for u, comparing the inventor of something to the current level of that thing is like comparing one of those old fat TVs to a plasma screen
This isn't good analogy. There is no way to tell which invention required more skills or time to develop.
wild786 Wrote:lol everyone talks about old players, but are we talkin about best player by only regarding skills then obviously its not old players, the average skills of players today are worse than before, but the top players of today are much better than 02-07, if someone like nevermind or fg from today was there on fkone's best day they would be better than fkone
My analogy to shuffling was true, but you can't judge player solely because he developed one technique. It's almost impossible to tell who is the best player ever. The best player IMO would be someone who was the most talented, not the player who know all techniques, lines developed during past 10 years. Saying that we shouldn't take old players into consideration is nonsense. Weren't mike (woz) widely applauded when he came back some years ago? He was good in 2002 and he was good when he came back around 2008 after few years of no playing. He just learned how to bs and do kub drift. Maybe Elysium isn't the best player, although when thps3 came out he was on pair or better than andy. How many people could do combos worth over 70 millions before even thps3 for pc came out??? I will still claim that oldschoolers have great chance against current players, they just need to learn few techniques and see some lines. Also I won't claim that there aren't any good players now or in 2007 etc, because people can be talented regardless of when they started playing this game. And the best player must good at EVERY aspect of game (TA, graff, ctf, koth etc) and stuff like no manuals or improv. You can't just select improv ctf and cz.
so who was most talented?
again you cant really tell, because newschoolers can learn much faster. they get trained by some guy who knows all techniques and tfs and that newsqler gets rleally good after short time. u might call him talented because hes pro after that short time, but most oldschoolers had to find stuff on their own. but than again, newsql never had the chance to find things on their own. because all the stuff was already
shin Wrote:old.
so whos more talented now?
No one. Talking about best thps3 player has no sense.. As I said: Everyone of us has different expierence at thps3. My expierence is that in 2005-2007 only 2 clans counted: Blu and THC and we were 2 best teams at thps3 because we had best players at this moment. Plum will say something different because he rememberes the times when none of us played. and finally wild will say that new players are better because he owns nowadays. Too many factors to decide about it.
Nevermind Wrote:so who was most talented?
again you cant really tell, because newschoolers can learn much faster. they get trained by some guy who knows all techniques and tfs and that newsqler gets rleally good after short time. u might call him talented because hes pro after that short time, but most oldschoolers had to find stuff on their own. but than again, newsql never had the chance to find things on their own. because all the stuff was already shin Wrote:old.
so whos more talented now?
are we talking about talent or skill? those are diff things talent is when u are capable of learning fast skill is just how good u are
I thought we are talking about taking any player on their best day and pitting him vs everyone else to see how good he is, not how much potential he had
@shin, by ur logic i can say u cant talk about blind bcos u are noob now when he is much better